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Anti Defamation League – Time to Redefine Defamation

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 31, 2010

Mmmm….Anti-Defamation….has a ring doesn’t it?  May even inspire one…against defamation, against slander, against vilification..I like it.

Who are they anyway?  Founded in 1913, the ADL, in its words, “fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals and protects civil rights for all.”  Ok, I am still on board, I like this concept.

Except when it does the exact opposite of its mission statement.  Evidently defamation, bigotry, democratic ideals and civil right do not apply to Islam.  It seems that the Anti-Defamation League that defender of truth and fairness, accuracy doesn’t think it is appropriate for a Mosque to be built near Ground Zero.

Here’s the full release of their press statement:

We regard freedom of religion as a cornerstone of the American democracy, and that freedom must include the right of all Americans – Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and other faiths – to build community centers and houses of worship.

We categorically reject appeals to bigotry on the basis of religion, and condemn those whose opposition to this proposed Islamic Center is a manifestation of such bigotry.

However, there are understandably strong passions and keen sensitivities surrounding the World Trade Center site. We are ever mindful of the tragedy which befell our nation there, the pain we all still feel – and especially the anguish of the families and friends of those who were killed on September 11, 2001.

The controversy which has emerged regarding the building of an Islamic Center at this location is counterproductive to the healing process. Therefore, under these unique circumstances, we believe the City of New York would be better served if an alternative location could be found.

In recommending that a different location be found for the Islamic Center, we are mindful that some legitimate questions have been raised about who is providing the funding to build it, and what connections, if any, its leaders might have with groups whose ideologies stand in contradiction to our shared values. These questions deserve a response, and we hope those backing the project will be transparent and forthcoming. But regardless of how they respond, the issue at stake is a broader one.

Proponents of the Islamic Center may have every right to build at this site, and may even have chosen the site to send a positive message about Islam. The bigotry some have expressed in attacking them is unfair, and wrong. But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain – unnecessarily – and that is not right.

Mmmm, a question of what is right.  Is that what that statement said?  Let’s read it again:  But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right.

Well now we all know who we should seek out if we have a question about what is right.   I wonder if a Jewish synagogue were asked not to open up because an already exiting mosque were near by if they would view that as the right thing to do?

What about the pain of the families who lost their Muslim mother, father, husband, sister, brother, wife, child  on 9/11?  Their pain is not valid?

Let’s blow away the smoke from this statement and call a spade a spade:  this has nothing to do with what is “right” – it has everything to do with stoking the flames of hatred and fear about Islam.  It is a self serving statement that in short says, we don’t like Islam, we won’t tolerate it.  God forbid we should actually tolerate another’s religious belief, or even attempt to understand it.  Or more importantly to recognize, acknowledge that the God of Judaism, is the same God of Christianity and the same God of Islam.  These three faiths are are permanently linked together literally.   It is about using Islam as a pinata for all that ails the world.  It is about keeping the flames of hatred and fear alive…after all what would happen if we reached out…perhaps we wouldn’t need any group for anti-defamation.

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Jan Brewer – Sound Bites For Political Ads

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 29, 2010

Jan Brewer - Who needs the Constitution?

All the talk of a fragile economy, government austerity, wasting tax payers money has evidently not had an impact in Arizona.  Under the leadership of Gov. Brewer the state is now facing more court battles, more tax payer money being spent to what amounts to a very expensive campaign financed by each and every US taxpayer.  So weather you like it or not, you are contributing to Jan Brewer’s campaign, all so she can get the soundbite that says – we’re doing what the Federal government won’t…or some variation there of.

Here are the facts:

  • Under the Obama admnistration a record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that  hire undocumented workers.
  • The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration’s 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush’ss final year in office.
  • Secure Communities is another program that uses the fingerprints of people in custody for other reasons to identify deportable immigrants. The administration has expanded the system to 437 jails and prisons from 14 and aims to extend it to “every law enforcement jurisdiction” by 2013.   ICE director John Morton predicts it will “overhaul the face of immigration.”
  • Nearly 50 percent of the people who have been deported from the United States this budget year have a criminal conviction, from driving without a license and DUI to major felonies, ICE’s Morton said. That represents an increase of more than 36,000 over the same period in 2009, which showed a rise of 22,000 over 2008
  • The program does not focus on illegal immigrants who  are pregnant, nursing or seriously ill. Also included are primary caretakers of children or the infirm and people.  These people should not be placed in detention except in “extraordinary circumstances.”

Source:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790_3.html?sid=ST2010072503046

The facts are quite simple, we do not have the system, man power, or ability to round up each and every illegal alien, we need to prioritize.   God forbid we should use some sense of compassion and not round up pregnant women, or primary caretakers!

What amazes, and it has for the past four years to be honest, is this idea that if you say something enough it must be true.  This harping that the Federal Gov’t doesn’t do its job, yet the facts are out there and they are ignored.  Somebody left a comment on another post and it said:

ruth
rscha@q.com
75.171.126.108

Govenor, thank you for fighting for us, it seems we have laws but the goverment does not inforce them.

What part of illegal does this Judge not understand?

She should be ashamed to all of the people for her ruling.

I’m ashamed for her.

VOTE HER OUT, PUT HER NAME ON THE CALANDER SO WE DO NOT FORGET?

Ruth, the issue at play is really does Federal Law beat state law.  Your Gov. is using this as a political play, it has nothing to do with what is best for Arizona or the country, it is bowing to the populist ideas.    We all agree that a major overhaul needs to be done, there is a problem with illegal aliens.  Nobody is going to argue that point.  What that means then is that people need to come to the table with ideas that fit within the Constitutional Framework of our country.  Sounds reasonable right?  But that doesn’t make for a good sound bite does it?  It doesn’t feed the anger of of racism, it doesn’t soothe the need for blood… as somebody once said..it is easy to lead a revolution, but harder to govern.  Populist view does not always agree with the Constitution and I for one am not willing to throw out the Constitution.

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Brand Palin – A Political Corpse?

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 29, 2010

Evolution of Brand Palin

To anybody who has read my blog it is quite evident that I hold no affection for Sarah Palin, for a variety of reasons.

The “Oracle” has told me that I waste too much time on her, she is a political corpse.  While I would love to think so, as it would restore my faith that more and more people are starting to de-tox from the Palin virus.  This comment was made to me a couple of weeks ago…and I have been chewing on it.  Of course it is hard to find articles on Sarah Palin that do not show her in a poor light, the woman is a lightening rod of negative publicity.  But somebody once said, ain’t no such thing as bad publicity, and Sarah has taken that to heart.

But in recent days it does seem that there are more “meaty” confrontations with Brand Palin, and some pack a pretty good punch….like this one:

Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Republican candidate Kelly Ayotte in the race for U.S. Senate in New Hampshire may have adversely affected the conservative contender’s campaign. An excerpt of analysis from Public Polling Policy said:

The Palin endorsement may well be playing a role in this. 51% of voters in the state say they’re less likely to back a Palin endorsed candidate to only 26% who say that support would make them more inclined to vote for someone. Among moderates that widens to 65% who say a Palin endorsement would turn them off to 14% who it would make more supportive.

The Democratic candidate Paul Hodes’ lead with them has expanded from just 8 points at 47-39 in April to now 21 points at 51-30. Ayotte’s favorability with them has gone from +5 at 32/27 to -19 at 27/46.

And this one…

Sarah goes camping with Kate and the kids… Reality TV is where the action is?

Or this one…

Journolist – a rehashing of how mistreated Sarah was during the Presidential campaign two years ago.  Sarah, it’s over, move one with your life.

Or this one…

Brought to us by the politically vital state of New Hampshire – after Sarah endored Kelly Ayotte (see above)  JOSEPH W. MCQUAID, the publish of the New Hampshire Union Leader had this to say in his paper on 7/21… Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Kelly Ayotte for U.S. Senate should neither surprise nor upset the other campaigns. The race will be won by the candidate who impresses New Hampshire voters, and New Hampshire voters are rarely impressed by what outsiders have to say.

This is to take nothing away from Ayotte. She is a formidable first-time candidate and a legitimate contender for the Republican nomination.

But former Gov. Palin isn’t making these endorsements because, as she claims, she has spent time in New Hampshire and thus knows that the people here are a lot like Alaskans. She spent a few hours here on one day during the 2008 Presidential election. That’s still more time than she spent getting to know Ayotte, but it takes quite a bit longer to know New Hampshire.

A word of advice for supporters of Messrs. Bender, Binnie, Lamontagne and Hodes (sounds like a law firm, doesn’t it?): Don’t fret over what a “Mama Grizzly” from Alaska does. Right now, Granite Staters have more to worry about in keeping bears away from bird feeders.

If all those aren’t bad enough on their own, it seems that Sarah’s Biography for younger readers has been delayed indefinitely. Christian book publisher Zondervan is delaying publication of a Sarah Palin biography for young readers.

Cheryl Lundberg, Zondervan’s director of customer service, said in an e-mail that after “careful review and discussion,” it was deemed that October was not an “optimal time” to publish the book. She said no decision had been made on when the book would be printed.

“Speaking Up: The Sarah Palin Story,” had been slated for release in September and publication in October. It was to be part of a series of biographies aimed at 9- to 12-year-old readers that featured Christians in the news.

Author Kim Washburn said Friday she was surprised by the decision. She said she was told this week the book was on hold “indefinitely.”

I have this sneaking suspicion that Sarah believes in reincarnation, and she will continually attempt to “re-birth” herself.  This is not a woman to make a graceful exit.

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Oh My! Could this be True? Fox News Bomb

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 25, 2010

America's # 1 News Channel is owned by Whom?

I just can’t resist this one, perhaps for some this is old news but for me it was certainly an “awakening” of epic proportions and of course when I thought about the irony I laughed until tears rolled down my face.  But I digress…so what has this monkey laughing like a hyena?  Fox News – Conservative America’s favorite news station, the news station that inflames, incites, promotes Islamaphobia,  anti – Arab propaganda, instills fear that we are being invaded by all those foreigners wanting to destroy our way of life…you know the station.   We all know that Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch, an Australian, but those Australians are “white” like us so its ok but did you know that the largest shareholder outside of the Murdoch family is ..wait for it…here it comes … an ARAB! Saints preserve us we are all damned!

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal (also spelled Waleed bin Talal) is a member of the Saudi Royal Family.  Last year he was listed as #22 on the world’s richest people.  His company – Kingdom Holding Company – *snickers* for the record that Kingdom is referring to the Kingdom of SAUDI ARABIA – is the largest shareholder of News Corp outside of Robert Murdoch.

To recap…the # 1 and #2 top shareholders in America’s  favorite  news source that keeps us all aware of the impending dangers of Moslems and Mosques, the channel that warns us all that the American spirit of capitalism is being undermined by socialism, is controlled by two NON AMERICANS?

Somebody better tell Sarah her paycheck is coming from a Moslem..*snort*

Certainly this is proof that God has a sense of humor…

Update:  What was that noise?  Was that the sound of a Conservative’s head exploding? mwwwwwhahahaha

E tu brute?

E tu Brute? (Betrayed by Fox)


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Meet the Oracle

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 24, 2010

The Oracle

I would like to welcome the Oracle to the jungle.   The Oracle hails from that mystical place in the cyber world known as the Conservatives.  The Oracle has been selected to bring in some balance.  While we may not agree on everything, we do agree that some where between the far right and the far left is where we as a country, as a people need to be headed.  Should be interesting..stay tuned.

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The Week in Review and an “Award”

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 24, 2010

The Week in Review

  • Let’s start with my favorite target, Sarah Palin.  Seems Facebook automatically deleted her hate inspired post about the mosque at Ground Zero…and the problem is?  What could she possibly ‘refudiate’? mmmmmmmmmwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh  Keeping in the Palin family zoo – Bristol and Levi of course are back together.. announced via a magazine (US Weekly) without the mama grizzly’s knowledge.  But rumor has it after Bristol and Levi’s cover on the magazine, sales were disappointing.

A source reveals:  “Last week sales figures for Us Weekly were a huge disappointment.
After spending that sort of money, Us was hoping to sell over a million copies; instead they only sold around 750,000. Don’t expect to see any of the Palins on a cover of any other [celebrity] weeklies any time soon.  Sexy Sarah was asking for $150K for the staged photos and make-up
interview between her and Levi, but it was quickly reduced to $10,000
and STILL no takers!

  • BP – it’s still flowing.
  • Andrew Breitbart destroyed Shirley Sherrod’s life with a maliciously edited video and of course Fox News jumped on board, along with the “administration”.  Was this a teachable moment?  Something along the lines of VERIFY your sources…and curb those knee jerk reactions?
  • Freedom of speech is alive and well in the USA – we do not require you to show that you have any common sense before you spew something out into cyberspace or organize a Koran Burning day under the guise of religion –  Dove World Outreach Center   – makes a monkey wonder if they are using the Reader’s Digest Version of the Bible and perhaps some critical things have been left out.

This week’s Monkey Throwing Feces Award goes to………all of them…they are all outstanding examples of what is wrong.

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Dove World Outreach Center – This is Christianity? God Help Us

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 23, 2010

Isn’t it wonderful to know that religious extremists are not confined to any one group?  Isn’t it wonderful to know that in the USA we have freedom of speech, freedom of expression applicable even when the speech is vile and ignorant?  Isn’t it wonderful to know that when a hategroup masquerades as a Christian group they have the right to do so?

This morning over my coffee I like to have choked and died of embarrassment, I kept hoping the earth would open up and swallow me so I didn’t have to explain this story that has reached across the world.  My embarrassment quickly turned to disgust.

Here’s the story in a “nut”shell – Dove World Outreach Center is promoting a national burn the Koran day on 9/11.  (http://www.doveworld.org/) They have even put up a facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/International-Burn-A-Koran-Day/134718123226530?v=wall)

I urge all Americans, all Christians to contact these people, let them know this is not the behavior of somebody who professes to be a Christian or an American.   These are actions that incite and promote hatred.  This is  not  the message of Christian love,  this is not what Jesus taught.  He taught us to live a spiritual and ethical life based on our essential and inherent goodness.

Islam and Christianity and are the two largest religions in the world today. Jesus and Mohammed  are two individuals that have changed the world forever.  While we like to argue about who was “right”, what we cannot argue with was their message.  Their message was and is virtually the same, it is a message of  love, peace, and forgiveness.

There are two thoughts of tolerance and love… I want to leave you with today..

The first is from The Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) said, “Ruined are those who insist on hardship in faith,”

The second is from the Gospel of Matthew 5:9

Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.

***UPDATE*****

On a whim I filled out their contact us form..and really not expecting a reply I got one..so I apologize for the off handed initial email…makes for a good read tho…

remember that email address is:  info@doveworld.org

On their contact form I told them

sent a message using the contact form at http://www.doveworld.org/contact.

Don’t you dare call yourselves Christians and pervert MY God! It is groups like you full of hate that will be responsible for the decline of the USA, shame on you.  A bunch of cowards.
May God truly have mercy on your ignorance.
They responded with:

From: Dove World Outreach Center <info@doveworld.org>
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 9:13:33 PM
Subject: Re: [General] burn the koran day
Sounds like the same anger that was in the Pharisees. They hated and killed Jesus, remember?

We are sure these resources will be of further help to you, especially the blog: Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran @ iiotd
Resources:
Our Websites:
In the News, Protests, Sermon and Radio Podcasts, Blog
The book, blog, products
Dr. Terry Jones, Senior Pastor
Dove World Outreach Center
5805 NW 37th St
Gainesville, FL 32653
(352) 371-2487
I responded with:
Your bible doesn’t have the part in it about ..Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God?
Or that doesn’t apply to you because?????
They said:
From: Dove World Outreach Center <info@doveworld.org>
To: Poltical Monkey
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 4:09:14 AM
Subject: Re: [General] burn the koran day

Sir, you cannot pick and choose from the Bible. God does not change and he will not be mocked.

We are sure these resources will be of further help to you, especially the blog: Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran
and
We hate the Koran! @ iiotd
Resources:
Our Websites:
In the News, Protests, Sermon and Radio Podcasts, Blog
The book, blog, products
Dr. Terry Jones, Senior Pastor
Dove World Outreach Center
5805 NW 37th St
Gainesville, FL 32653
(352) 371-2487
I responded with:
Sir,
Who is cherry picking?  This burn the Koran Day is reeking of the beginning of Nazi Germany and the burning of books.  This is a deliberate provocative action, you want to illicit what response?  How would you respond if somebody burned the bible?  I resent as a Christian that you are hiding behind the name of Jesus Christ and hijacking Christianity.  You are making it a hateful religion.  You are perverting  it.  You are correct God does not change.  The God of Christians is the same God of Moslems, and how dare you assume to speak for God?
There is a time when whether you like it or not that a constructive dialogue must be opened, if you were to open this dialogue you would find that there is a great deal of common ground between Islam and Christianity.
If you want to show Christians as ignorant, hate filled people, you are on the right track.  If you want to show the rest of the world that America was not a country built on freedom of religion and worship, then you are on the right track.
Let me ask you this…you hold your book burning, and you incite hatred in the name of God, and somebody is hurt or worse, will this achieve your objective?  Can you live with that?
They have not responded..but I was not deterred, seems that there are even more problems for the Dove World Outreach Center, so I thought it was my duty to call it to their attention…I sent the following, and no response to date has been received…I think I must be off their Christmas card list..
Dude –
I think you are using the Reader’s Digest version of the Bible, and you are missing some passages, like this one:
Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him. Mark 12:17

(I then inserted this article -http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/28/dove-world-outreach-cente_n_662450.html#)
Which included comments etc, because it takes so long to load, I will not insert it here, obviously you are welcome to go to the above link to read all the comments..

Members of a church in Gainesville, Florida are planning to commemorate the anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001 by burning Korans. The “International Burn A Quran Day,” is just the latest in anti-Islamic protests that the Dove World Outreach Center holds each year on 9/11.

“The goal of these and other protests are to give Muslims an opportunity to convert,” said the church’s pastor, Terry Jones.

The church stirred up controversy last year when in July, they put out signs that read “Islam Is Of The Devil,” which is also the title of the pastor’s book.

“We are definitely trying to send the message that Jesus Christ is the only way, said Jones.

The church has been known for its controversial nature since it was founded by Jones in 1981. The Dove World Outreach Center has also been very outspoke about abortion, gay marriage and homosexuality. Members of the congregation plan to meet on August 2 to protest the election of Gainesville’s first gay mayor. They have come under scrutiny in the past for picketing with signs that said “No Homo Mayor.”

If protesting wasn’t enough controversy for the church, it has also recently become the subject of investigation over its alleged for-profit enterprise. Jones uses the church as a tax-exempt business and makes profits from its unpaid members in various practices, including merchandising and eBay sales.

dude read the rest of your fan mail

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Rabid Monkey Rant Fox News and Quasi News Sites & Hate Mongers

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 21, 2010

Rabid Monkey Rant

Ok, I am just foaming at the mouth, and I feel the vein in my forehead about to explode.   Why you ask?  Biggovernment.com  –  Fox News  – Tea Party activist Andrew Breitbart – Sherrod.

To recap – media whore Andrew Breitbart, you remember him from the ACORN fiasco? breaks a story of reverse discrimination.   Fox news runs with the story  that occurred  24 years ago by playing a video clip showing a Ms. Sherrod who happens to be black, and was working for a non profit group at the time  telling a story about how she didn’t give a white farmer her “full” help.  Well guess what, that video was edited, the full video was released, and it wasn’t a case of discrimination, it was a story of enlightenment.  The Monday excerpt excluded the end of Sherrod’s story, seen Tuesday, in which she talks of helping save the white farmer’s property from foreclosure.
Sherrod learned that the plight of poverty goes beyond race. “When I made that commitment I was making that commitment to black people and to black people only,” she said in the video released Tuesday. “But you know, God will show you things. … You realize that the struggle is really about poor people.”  The people that she helped, came out and defended her.

Ok, so my point?!  These quasi-news sites, under the guise of Conservative Patriotic Americans are like a cancer and need to be surgically cut out – Biggovernment.com and Brietbart.com need to go.  Fox News needs to remind itself of the basic rule of journalism, verify your sources.  I know that is a new concept for Fox, since it sells sizzle and spin, as opposed to facts.  I am still waiting for their lead story to be “I was abducted by Aliens and now I’m pregnant”.  At this point the National Enquirer has more credibility than they do…but folks keep on tuning in.    This story had the potential to absolutely destroy this woman’s life.  That is exactly what it set out to do.  What is it going to take before all those who tune into Fox for their news realize it isn’t news?  Does Fox have to step into your life and ruin in?

Once upon a time somebody said the pen is mightier than the sword – these toxic, cancerous philosophies will be the undoing of a great nation.  America wake up, get the facts, not the sizzle, the facts.  For all that we have accomplished with regards to race, we really haven’t come very far.  There is a group of folks who look just like me I am ashamed to say… white, Christians who are so afraid of losing whatever “mythical” superiority they feel entitled to, they will resort to anything.  They tried to do it with Obama and his birth certificate, even tho that has be de-bunked time and time again, people are still harping on it.  They want to paint him as Hilter, as a Marxist, a Communist, a Socialist.  They are doing it to Islam, spreading fear and hatred with absolute untruths.  Have no fear, soon something near and dear to you too will become a target if these people are left unchecked.

The Tea Party is starting to catch on with the ousting of Mark Williams, but I fear it is too little too late – let’s be honest anybody who can get excited about Sarah Palin has some major credibility issues to begin with.

Pres. Obama – shame on you for letting yourself have such a knee jerk reaction and buying into this bullshit and allowing the “administration” to fire this woman.  I had more faith in you than that.  Yes, I know the apology etc…but you know what, it was just flat wrong.  Isn’t there something about being innocent until proven guilty?

So here’s a message to all those hate mongers, racist, conspiracy loving, right wing nut jobs, all you folks  hiding behind the American flag, the Tea Party, Fox News, the gig is up.

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Can God Survive Religion? Part III – Islam and Getting the Vocabulary Right – Infidel

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 21, 2010

The word is “infidel” and it is a loaded word, in today’s world it invokes an array of dis-information and extremism.  Let me take away the mystery of this word with the truth.

Derived from the Arabic  word Kufr, Kafar, Kafir – it implies a deliberate rejection of Faith –  read that again please…a deliberate rejection of faith, a looser translation would be an unbeliever.  Arabic is a very rich language, did you know that there are over 500 words for the word lion?  I bring this point up because you cannot read Arabic, or understand the word unless you read the entire context.   When I decided to write this particular post, I showed a Muslim sheik what I had found with regards to the word Kafir on the net, in essence because it has appeared on “Wikipedia” it has therefore taken as truth, the explanations do not take into account the richness of the Arabic language, the evolution of a language that is thousands of years old.

Let me be very clear, it does not mean that anybody who is  not a Moslem is an infidel. A hadith (which is a record of the sayings of the Prophet Mohamed (PBUH).  It is a further explanation – it is a supplemental to the Koran.  If there was a question about a passage in the Koran, the Prophet would elaborate on it, while it is not the word of God – it is sacred text)  exists where it warns very clearly, that you should exercise great caution on whom you call an infidel, if you are incorrect and accuse or call somebody an infidel, the burden, the penalty of your actions if you are wrong is that you are the infidel.  The law of karma in full effect – what goes around comes around.

The next point is too critical to understand – it is the point that I have heard time and time again spewed forth – Christians and Jews are infidels.  This simply is not true.  Moslems can marry a Christian or a Jew.  Christians and Jews believe in God.  They are not atheist, they are not polytheists – the God of a Christian, the God of a Jew and the God of a Muslim is the same God.  Do you think that if Christians or Jews were infidels that Islam would permit the marriage between a Moslem and a Christians?

An infidel, or an unbeliever is one who does not belief in God, Allah, G-d, Yaweh, whatever term you want to use for The One God.  Interestingly enough as far back as the sixteenth century Christians have historically viewed Muslims as infidels.  Go figure?



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Can God Survive Religion? Part II – Islam and Getting the Vocabulary Right

Posted by politicalmonkey2010 on July 19, 2010

Madressa

Here’s another “misconception” we have about Islam, another definition we need to understand.  Madressa.  Some where along the way somebody wrote a book, describing a Madressa as a place where young people are turned into radical extremist, and it has become a politically perverted word.  Here’s the truth – a madressa is a school, secular or religious, it is simply any place of education.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You and I went to a madressa, we send our children to a madressa.   When little Billy and Janie go to Sunday school they are going to a madressa.

As the Islamic empire developed it was not much different than the development of the USA, the centers of a community focused on schools, hospitals and churches.  It just happened to be instead of a church it was a mosque.

A couple of points to ponder….

  • There is a school of thought (no pun intended)that says the concept of a degree, i.e. bachelors or masters may have originated with Islamic madressas.
  • Women were highly encouraged to attend madressas as early as 750 – not sure we can say that same opportunity existed for  European men, let alone women.

So the next time somebody says…”You know Barrack Obama went to a madressa.”  You can respond with full faith and confidence that you are absolutely correct when you say to them….and so did you.

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